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Maxim Lott's avatar

I don’t think this sufficiently steelmans the moral relativist side — and leans on lots of loaded terms for rhetorical points.

The problem with your sentences that seem “obviously true” is that the word “wrong” hasn’t been defined.

A smart moral relativist defines “wrong” as “something I deeply abhor”. Perhaps even “something society generally abhors.” That’s it. Critically, it’s seen as a *preference*. It doesn’t exist outside of the subjective preference of the subject.

Whereas a moral objectivist sees “wrong” as “something inherently wrong, written into the universe, and I can reach the true, objectively correct, answer.”

Regardless of which is easier to swallow, I think the preference way of looking at this has a lot of points in it favor, in terms of which framework is objectively true in reality.

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The Water Line's avatar

I'm mostly unpersuaded by the examples of irrational desires because they are often so unusual. It seems Huemer's earlier point about thought experiments applies here:

"Our intuitions about strange scenarios may be influenced by what we reasonably believe about superficially similar but more realistic scenarios. We are particularly unlikely to have reliable intuitions about a scenario S when (i) we never encounter or think about S in normal life, (ii) S is superficially similar to another scenario, S’, which we encounter or think about quite a bit, and (iii) the correct judgment about S’ is different from the correct judgment about S."

Future Tuesday indifference (and many other of the alleged irrational desire cases) are paradigm examples of this.

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