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Timothy's avatar

I'm not sure how you get to God being good and an afterlife existing, from the fact that a God probably created the universe to contain conscious life.

I can think of many reasons why a simple, powerful being might decide to create a universe where conscious life can evolve. I'm not convinced of Nonmechanistic Rationalism, but I could probably think of reasons other than God being all good for why he might want to have people have this ability.

In general, it just seems suspicious that this God is so similar to the religious beliefs people have held for millennia. For this not to be a coincidence, we need a God who gave us some vague intuitions about him, but only enough so that various different religions exist on earth, all somewhat similar to each other, but clearly they can't all be right. And then he didn't really do anything else. He doesn't care whether we find out what kind of God is the real God, or he is content with us never being sure and lots of people being atheists. Wouldn't God either just make us believe in him completely, just not care what we think, or trust that we will figure out the truth eventually? Why only give us some vague inclination to be religious?

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John Brundage's avatar

You put your finger on a really important point: There are two readings of reality, one tragic and one hopeful. The more one seriously reflects on suffering and evil, the harder it becomes to sustain a neutral middle reading. It's easy to dismiss the hopeful view as dishonest, head-in-the-sand wishful thinking. But the tragic reading of reality is often equally motivated by obtuse, uncurious cynicism. At least the hopeful reading doesn't typically mask itself in a veneer of fearless intellectual sophistication. You might enjoy W Norris Clarke's book 'The One and the Many.' Your points about Pan's Labyrinth reminded me of these passages:

"I am now faced with a radical intellectual choice between two ultimate alternatives on the meaning of my life: Either there exists a positive Infinite Fullness of being and goodness, […] and then my human nature becomes luminously and completely meaningful, intelligible, sense-making, and my life is suffused with hope of fulfillment. Or in fact, there exists no such real Infinite at all. And then my nature conceals in its depth a radical defect of meaningfulness, of coherence, an unfillable void of unintelligibility, a kind of tragic emptiness: a natural desire that defines my nature as a dynamic unity, but is in principle unfulfillable, incurably frustrated, "a useless passion," as Jean-Paul Sartre, the existentialist atheist puts it, oriented by its very nature toward a non-existent void, toward nothing real, kept going only by an ineradicable illusion [...] But what good reason can one have for choosing darkness over light, illusion over meaning, for not choosing the light? Only if the darkness is more intelligible? But this does not make sense! Why not then accept my nature as a meaningful gift, pointing the way to what is, rather than to what is not? […] This unique kind of "argument," based on my own inner experience, can lead me to a profoundly reasonable affirmation that a real Infinite must exist as my final end…" (227-228).

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