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Sam Cole's avatar

I dunno. Not sure you’re “giving the Scott Alexander his due,” as they say. In his hypothetical, he’s saying that this person doesn’t CARE what the ordinary usage of the word is.

Doesn’t that kind of make it useless to argue about the first type of argument?

Also, it seems like in his particular example, it would be useless to argue about the second thing, too, because there’s nothing particularly immoral about that definition beyond the fact that it’s simply incorrect.

The sentence “There’s no disputing the definition of words” is strictly speaking incorrect. But I think maybe he means, “There’s no disputing the definition of words with someone who’s arbitrarily committed to an idiosyncratic definition.” All you can say to that person is, “Well, that’s not how most people use the word.”

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Apricity's avatar

When someone says you can’t argue about definitions, I typically take them to mean that there are no robust, stance-independently correct definitions, not that you can’t be correct or incorrect about ordinary usage or that you can’t argue for why a word should or shouldn’t be defined a certain way. If that’s what he means, I agree. If he’s affirming the latter two, I disagree. Either way, it’d be useful to clarify.

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