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Daniel Greco's avatar

While "anti-realism" is used in many ways, contemporary writers in the broadly anti-realist tradition (Blackburn and Gibbard, and their fellow travelers) tend to go out of their way to make sense of the possibility of moral argument. That is, they don't like the emotivist idea that all we can do is just shout our values at each other, "boo" and "hooray" style, with no room for rational persuasion.

They have a variety of ways of doing it; maybe it involves bringing out tensions in our values, or showing us that not only do we have first-order values, but we also have meta-values, of valuing whichever first-order values are produced by certain sorts of processes (e.g., empathetic reflection, or stuff along those lines), such that we can make a case that we *would* value certain things if we changed along dimensions that we *already* recognize as improvements.

And it's not clear to me that things are all that different for the moral realist. Even if you and your interlocutor agree that morality is objective, in convincing them that they're making a mistake about objective morality, you have to appeal to some views they already have about what objective morality requires, which will look a lot like (what the anti-realist interprets as) appealing to values they already have, or meta-values...

Basically, I agree that nobody, no matter what their meta-ethics, should think there's a quick route to blocking the possibility of reasonable argument-induced value shift.

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John OZ 🐢's avatar

Sometimes I wonder if part of the reason moral anti-realism is so popular is because of the folk logical positivism (in the words of Tim Keller) people have, where any component that has an obvious social element is automatically ontologically suspect. I think I feel like people just need to learn to be more discriminating in the criteria they use to evaluate different concepts, more than anything else.

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