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Both Sides Brigade's avatar

"Just as naturalism predicts evil by the hypothesis of indifference, by saying the universe doesn’t care about us, theism says God would put us (for some time) in a universe that doesn’t care about us."

But... theism doesn't say that, right? There's absolutely nothing intrinsic to theism that suggests God would put us into a world where it seems like he doesn't exist. That's something you would only ever accept because you have to make sense of the actual data in front of you; do you really think someone who had never seen this universe before would, upon learning only that a perfect God created it, predict that things would appear as though he hadn't? Or, alternatively, do you think in some alternate universe where everything was perfect and God's existence appeared obvious, atheists in that world would use that fact to argue God didn't exist? Of course not.

In general, I don't think it's ever legitimate to say two theories are equivalently likely just because one can be made to appear like the other through the addition of an ad hoc hypothesis. I mean, think about someone who looks like they've died of a heart attack - it would be silly to say the theory that they were murdered by a sadistic trickster who likes to fake heart attacks was equally likely just because that hypothesis does predict their death would look like a heart attack, right?

Also, you have to immediately ask why God allowed you to figure this out, if apparently it's an overwhelming moral good that you experience life as though it were godless. Now that the "game is up," in some sense, what justifies God continuing the charade?

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Liam Robins's avatar

My strongest argument against this is just Occam's Razor. Which is more likely: God created an indifferent world to teach us things for the afterlife, or we just live in an indifferent world?

Frankly, it sounds to me like you have a predetermined conclusion (God is real), and you're brainstorming any possible reason why that might be true.

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