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Daniel's avatar

I have never understood why a number of internet theists will choose to ignore the probabilistic arguments for God. After all, they're arguing for a fairly controversial position, and one would think they would use any good argument they could to defend their belief. Then again, I get the feeling that a significant portion of these individuals are not great at philosophy in the first place and that many of them would be far less certain of their positions had they taken the time to engage with some good atheistic philosophy.

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Arturo Macias's avatar

Nothing about external reality can be ever “proven”, because the existence of external reality cannot be proven. This is obvious and immediate.

We prove relations between mental objects. Every single proof always involve objects in our own mind. If you know something for sure, it is only about yourself. This is implicit in Aristotelian inversion of Plato idealism, more explicit in Occam and the nominalists, and finally proven explicitly by the empirists (while it is implicit in the dependence of Descartes on the ontological fallacy to transcend beyond its own self).

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