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Everything there is to know about human biology and nutrition is not yet known, hence there is uncertainty about what exactly is healthy in terms of diet. It is known that some people need different diets than others based on their genetics and/or environment.

How can I argue Veganism is the best way to feed ourselves when we don't know what we don't know about nutrition? Some people claim they can only eat meat or they'll experience serious negative consequences. Some people claim to experience negative digestive dysfunction when they eat plants.

Should we ignore those people, call them liars, kooks or otherwise minimize their points of view in our pursuit of Veganism? What are the arguments against those people's perspectives?

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1. Factory farms are natural because humans are part of nature.

2. So it justifies strong aliens eating us, get over it baby

3. Just a really complicated argument from consequences and you not wanting people to eat you

4. We can do whatever we want

5. You could think that but you also could not lol

6. Why don't you care about killing plants? Because they don't set off your overactive empathy processes.

Learn to question what you think is obvious

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I argue that veganism is bad for animals, at least in the United States: https://www.losingmyreligions.net/ (the veganism chapter)

And yeah: oysters (another point in Losing)

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Jan 18, 2023·edited Jan 18, 2023

These are the main ones I hear from friends/family

1. Health: They say they're not sure it's healthy to be on a plant-based diet. When I bring up the studies on cancer, diabetes, and CVD, they say "but that doesn't mean there aren't nutrients you're missing on a vegan diet, nutrition science isn't in an advanced stage, we don't know what you might be missing."

2. Humane meat: They insist they do lots of research to make sure they're eating humanely raised animals, not factory farmed animals.

3. It's good for the animals: They claim these animals wouldn't exist without the need for meat. As long as it's humanely raised meat, it's beneficial for both humans and animals, as a short good life is better than no life at all. It's similar to what's discussed here by Jeff McMahan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tZ--bCOUro

I also have a very crazy friend who claims most meat is from clones, and therefore we can do whatever we want to them. I don't understand the argument and probably doesn't deserve a response.

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