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Ali Afroz's avatar

I think this post suffers from severe overconfidence and also strawmans views like logical positivism. For example, the logical positivist appear to have believed that it was meaningful to talk of things that you can’t experience as long as they could be experienced in principal, so it’s perfectly fine to suggest that the universe is billions of years old. Similarly, it’s not at all obvious dogs are conscious. It’s not as if they talk about being conscious and response to pain and other harmful stimulus is found even among single cell organisms. Same goes for your belief in moral realism, it might be true, but it’s definitely not obviously true. Honestly, while even I agree that academics often believe stupid things, I think this post is a good illustration of making the opposite mistake of not realising that people who are as intelligent as you disagreeing with you in large numbers is strong evidence that you are mistaken, and therefore, you should not be too confident in such opinions. It also shows a problem with your inductive counter argument because very often the people who are arguing that things not explained by science that appear obviously unscientific are often actually non-existent disagree with you about these issues and would regard supernatural morality is one of those things. You can’t use beliefs that the other party does not share to persuade them that they are mistaken because they reject your premises in the first place. As an exercise in persuasion, this post just isn’t very convincing because the majority of your examples just aren’t obvious mistakes but views that people with strong scientific inclinations regard as reasonable.

Clare Ashcraft's avatar

There's a study showing mathematicians are more likely to get a math question about gun control wrong if the correct answer doesn't support their personal views on the topic. It seems to be the smarter you are the more susceptible to confirmation bias and the better you are at convincing yourself and others of untrue things. You basically become so smart you can justify anything.

I believe studies also show (though it's been a while since I looked) the best solutions come from groups of mixed expert academics and amateurs. I think that's the solution—we need academics, but they shouldn't be held above the common person—they need to be accountable to normies and need to be ideologically diverse.

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