Discussion about this post

User's avatar
Vikram V.'s avatar

You say that you accept the immortality argument. Are you willing to test it?

Expand full comment
Alex Popescu's avatar

One quick point on your counter to the argument that there is a 0% chance that we would be in the finite present world, given that there is an infinity of time in heaven. Even if there are beth 2 number of observer moments in the present world, either because there are Beth 2 number of observers experiencing worlds like ours, or because our present world is infinitely looped, I still feel like there would be an infinitely greater number of observer moments in heaven. We could just pair every single discrete observer moment in our present world to a discrete observer moment in heaven, and we would still have an infinite number of heaven observer moments left over.

For example, for every looped world consisting of a finite time spent in the present world and an infinite amount of time spent in heaven afterwards, we could pair the moments in the present world in one-to one correspondence with finite moments in heaven, and still have infinite moments in heaven left over. This would be true for every loop, and we could extend the pairing to all other possible Beth-2 observers as well. For every Beth-2 observer, there will be an infinitely greater number of observer moments spent in heaven, even if they spend an infinite amount of time in our present world.

One way around this I suppose would be to argue that the loop is such that we spend a finite amount of time in the present world, then a finite amount of time in heaven, then back to the present world, and so on…

Expand full comment
7 more comments...

No posts