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Jessie Ewesmont's avatar

>The virtuous person cares about the interests of others even if he cannot care for them emotionally. His moral response is not contingent on his having a strong emotional reaction.

This is a bit of a nitpick, but virtue ethicists tend to think it is very important to have the right emotional reactions. Aristotle says that someone who doesn't want to do what is right, but does it anyway out of a sense of duty, is a "continent" person, one rung below genuinely virtuous people on the goodness ladder. Genuinely virtuous people feel great pleasure in being virtuous, and they enjoy and cherish the exercise of their virtues deeply. Hursthouse says that virtues are dispositions to act *and feel* a certain way. And so forth.

But this doesn't have much bearing on the conclusion of your post, other than to suggest that people who care about shrimp welfare for virtue-ethics reasons should probably consider psychologically training/conditioning themselves to genuinely feel bad for shrimp and genuinely feel good about saving them. Or they could write a bunch of blog posts about the plight of shrimp - that probably conditions their emotions too. :)

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I am against donating to Shrimp Welfare for a few reasons. If someone could persuade me in the other direction I would be open to donating money.

After reading this post I paused and attempted to predict the amount of neurons the average shrimp has. I told myself if that a shrimp has at least ~10 million neurons I could buy much of the reasoning in this post. I looked it up and it turns out that the average shrimp has..... 100k neurons.

For reference, Ants have ~250k neurons. There is estimated to exist QUINTILLIONS of ants (1,000,000 times bigger than the 1 trillion shrimp that die a year). The average human likely kills millions or even billions of ants a year indirectly through food consumption (pesticide use kills many trillions of ants a year), living in homes constructed on former colonies, buying consumer products, etc.

Would you pay 1 dollar to prevent the suffering of 15,000 ants? Would you cut back on all the pleasures of life to save millions or billions of ants? I think even the most extreme animal welfare people wouldn't do this.

From GiveWell you can save a human life for ~$5,000. Are you really telling me you would rather anesthetize 75,000,000 shrimps, who have 2x less neurons in their brains then ants, than save a human life?

And lets say you use a pure utilitarian argument, you claim that shrimps might suffer 1/1,000,000 so spending $5,000 preventing the suffering of 75 million shrimp is 75x better than saving one human live for the same amount of money. My response is what about ants? Why care more about shrimp suffering than ant suffering, when ants have a higher neuronal count and likely quadrillions die a year to human's instead of trillions of shrimp.

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