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Imagine the article from the 1800s: “A progressive cult-like movement known as Abolitionism has embedded over 80 journalists in mainstream newsrooms to spread its ‘philosophy,’ a Post investigation can reveal.”

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May 16Edited

I'm very sympathetic to effective altruism, I give to effective charities, and I want to see the movement succeed, but there *are* aspects of it that seem at least cult-*like* to me. It's actually one of (a few) reasons I would be uncomfortable holding myself out as an EA, for all that I give a significant amount each year to EA charities. And ofc this isn't a new criticism of EA; I've seen other EAs float this word before.

Aspects of it that seem cult-like: (i) "the big new idea that will change the world"; (ii) aggressive expansion; (iii) (in my experience) great intolerance of criticism and high levels of defensiveness; (iv) it can, and not terribly infrequently, does, take over all aspects of people's lives--not just their money, not just their career, but even their personal lives, up to and including some of the most intimate, personal decisions people can make; (v) putting certain EAs on super high pedestals; and (vi) an unfortunate tendency to shame people who are not acting in accordance with effective altruism ["why would you want to do less good? do you just want people to die?" - This is way more common than you may want to admit: I've seen people who claim they don't do this, do this. And I don't think they're intentionally lying. I genuinely think people don't realize they do it] - this kind of moral pressure is typical of cults.

I'm not saying EA actually *is* a cult, but when people say it seems cult-like--and it's not just this NY Post article (which I agree is terrible), but other normal people I know who have floated the same word--these are some of the things they're likely picking up on to suggest that term. And I do think this is an accusation EA needs to wrestle with. In my opinion, (iii), (iv), and (vi) are the most troubling factors on this front.

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