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Tony T's avatar

This is wrong. While I agree that factory farming is bad, suffering among livestock is awful; still, doing the same (eating, killing, torturing) a dog is far far worse.

One reason is intuitive/instinctive. We recoil from some things naturally, a "disgust" reflex. Things like incest or beastiality, which we call evil based more on instinct than reason.

Another is purpose. Animals have different purposes, and this is reflected in what is considered acceptable treatment. Let's take pigs and dogs for example. Some say pigs are as highly intelligent as dogs; for now, let's grant that premise. Pigs are ruminants; their only joy seems to be eating. I have heard many times that it is in fact dangerous to fall in a hog pen, as the pigs will start eating you. So long as the hogs are fed, they are suffering less than if a work animal (dog, horse) was so confined.

Dogs, on the other hand, have a much broader purpose and importance, as companions, workers, protectors, etc. Violating that distinction, except for true necessity, by eating a companion or even "work" animal like a horse, is abhorred because it is in fact abhorrent and goes against this distinction by purpose.

The last reason, particular to dogs, is duty. Mankind might not have survived without the domestication of dogs, as protectors and alarms to danger. Even if "we" had, you or I might not be here without them. From those times we continued to rely on them for hunting, working, and rescue, up to this day, as they intercept drugs and find trauma victims.

Dogs are the first and greatest species that we, man, have truly created. We have bred them to serve us, AND bred out of them the instincts (prey, kill, etc) they need to survive without us. And we--even if not you and I--share the burden of irresponsible people letting these dogs breed and turning them loose on streets in which they lack the skills to survive. We all inherit this debt to them, shared with no other creatures.

I volunteer at the local shelter. I take dogs out for walking and exercise. Most people think that the dogs, cooped up in kennels, need the exercise the most. That is incorrect: a dog, brought outside and placed in a locked and large dog run, will immediately whimper. What it wants is the human companion. It's purpose, is us.

Killing and eating our only friend in nature is miles more horrible than doing so to any other animal.

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"roughly 90% of pigs have osteoporosis because of the stress of constant egg-laying combined with no exercise and an inadequate diet;"

I didn't realize that pigs could lay eggs. Presumably you meant chickens/hens instead?

As a side note, there is some evidence that vegetarians and vegans have worse mental health that people who aren't vegetarians or vegans, but this evidence might not be conclusive, because there are also studies that show the opposite:

https://www.vegansociety.com/get-involved/research/research-news/vegan-diet-mood-disorders-and-methodological-issues#:~:text=11%20studies%20concluded%20that%20vegetarian,between%20vegetarian%20diets%20and%20depression.

BTW, Tim Hsiao (whose work you responded to before) actually argues that there is nothing wrong with eating dogs:

https://www.prindleinstitute.org/2021/10/in-defense-of-eating-dogs/

Unsurprising since he's of Chinese descent.

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