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Paul Litvak's avatar

"The final consideration—and this one is the only that bears any weight—is that there are many drowning children. Imagine that there wasn’t just one drowning child, but hundreds of thousands—you could never save them all. It’s plausible that you wouldn’t be obligated to spend your entire life saving children, never enjoying things."

Sorry, why is it plausible per your logic that we should be allowed to enjoy things? It seems clear that any marginal enjoyment I get is dwarfed by the obligation to save a life. Any softening seems like you just avoiding wanting to admit that we are all morally terrible per this theory? Why shouldn't I be obligated to eat nothing but rice and beans, live in a hovel, wear tattered clothes, etc? Maybe pragmatically it won't be helpful to convince people by pointing this out, but it seems like an inescapable conclusion of your moral theory.

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Noah Birnbaum's avatar

I’m in general agreement about the thought experiment and its conclusions. One issue that I would love to hear your thoughts on is when one imagines a case where you are wearing a $6000 suit and see a child drowning.

It seems like, in this case, one should not save the child and ruin the suit, but instead leave the child to die and sell the suit because you can save a life abroad + help others with $6000.

Because of the counter-intuitiveness of this conclusion (my intuition is that you should just save the child) and by a general reflective equilibrium approach to the correct normative theory, I think this is good reason for thinking that this cold calculation should not be done in every case — though I certainly realize that people should not scope neglect their way out of every problem and, on the margin, should donate a lot more to effective charities.

What do you think?

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