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Methuselah The Mediocre's avatar

The article is good, thanks for writing it. Some thoughts: I agree with veganism being morally correct, but I'm agnostic as to whether it is an obligation or a supererogation for individuals living in non-vegan societies.

Partly because treating it as an obligation for individuals living in non-vegan societies seems to rely on, or at least be easier to defend through, rejection of the Causal Inefficacy Objection. If said objection is rejected, then the Duty to Rescue is in turn jeopardized. See this for details: ⁠https://journalofcontroversialideas.org/article/2/2/206/htm#fn023-Controversial_Ideas-2-2

To clarify, I am vegan myself and pro-veganism. Jeopardizing the Duty to Rescue just seems like a high price to pay, so a position that entails that would need very strong evidence for me to accept it. I'm aware that this can be framed as an appeal to consequences fallacy, but I think that type of reasoning is occasionally appropriate when it comes to ethical positions. For example, I require more proof from Sam Harris for accepting torture than I do for his ethical claims with less dire consequences.

So at least in my current view, though I'm open to changing my mind, it's better to advocate for veganism without rejecting Causal Inefficacy Objection.

English is my second language, so please have patience with any communicative errors on my part.

dov's avatar

I asked Chatgpt 5.2 to factcheck this article and it gave it a 6/10. Cuz it was generally right but thinks u messed up some details especially how many "animals die before they are sold."

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