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River's avatar

> you should generally have a non-trivial credence in any view believed by a sizeable share of the smartest people who ever lived.

I have heard philosophers talk like this many times, and it makes no sense to me. Smart people believe dumb things all the time! Especially on subjects where they are detached from empirical evidence. Newton was an alchemist. This does not increase my credence in alchemy. Observing that smart people believe something should not change your credence in the thing at all. This is basic critical thinking.

With regard to the black and white fallacy, I think the problem is worse than you are making out. If we are seriously going to analyze this, then we can't limit ourselves to considering only religions that actually exist. We have to consider all theoretically possible gods. For any god X that you might claim exists, and wants me to believe certain things to get into heaving, I can imagine another god ~X which will admit to heaving exactly the set of people that X does not admit to heaven. Unless there is some reason to think that X is more probable than ~X, X and ~X will therefor cancel each other out in any expected value calculation. And at this point we are back to arguing about which god is most probable, and Pascal hasn't done any real work for us. You still need some other argument to get me to believe in your god.

With regard to choosing to believe, well, your notion of christianity is rather different both from the christianity I was raised in and the christianity my evangelical friends believed in when I was in college. Both those forms of christianity very much wanted belief, not trust.

As for doing things that make it more likely I will believe, several things on your list are not epistemically virtuous. If I am more likely to believe because I pray for belief or because I join a church and make friends, well, that is an epistemic failing on my part, and any god who incentivizes it is not maximally good. The same concern arises if I try to cause someone else to believe in a particular god for epistemically unvirtuous reasons.

This whole argument also has the flavor of a pascal's mugging, which is, you know, how the mugging got the name.

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Liam Robins's avatar

I believe that *if* God exists, he would not want me to evangelize for a religion that I don’t actually believe in. In fact, he would probably greatly disapprove of me doing that. If God wanted me to join some organized religion, I believe he would give me incontrovertible evidence that such a religion is actually true. I also don’t buy your claim that major religions or more likely than minor ones. Every major religion was once minor, and I see no correlation between the accuracy of a belief and its popularity among the general public.

I’m curious, what religion do you find most likely? And if you really believe that you’d receive an infinite benefit from evangelizing that religion, why don’t you make greater effort to do so?

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