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In-Nate Ideas's avatar

I agree that diversity is the way to go for two reasons:

1) I think the question of intrinsic value might be irreducibly uncertain, so we should favor robustness.

2) Because of status quo bias, I think a lot of people (rightly or wrongly) think a good life looks something like our natural lives. I sort of share the intuition that being a euphoric computer is unappealing - though I think that is probably totally wrong. So to get people on board with whatever bliss-maximizing scheme you want to run, it probably makes sense to also let people keep living nice natural lives on earth (or at least simulate a few)

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Minor point and then a serious point:

Minor point:

"If AI can generate novel chess moves, why couldn’t it generate novel arguments?" -> I agree with you on the conclusion but think this isn't an amazing argument for it, because you might think there are infinite possible arguments (this is probably true in maths), but there are _definitely_ finitely many chess moves, so you can just search the tree. But whatever, your key point is correct that obviously AI is going to be able to come up with new arguments.

Major point:

I wish you were more convinced of the safety concerns, instead of about optimizing for this-future/that-future. I agree if everything goes well, this is a big concern. But the "if" really is huge. I mean, maybe you have inside-view arguments for why you think things will be fine (I have inside-view arguments for why I think things are pretty likely not to be fine), but if not then I think the outside-view should _really worry you_!! The people running the companies are saying there's a lot of danger (and no it isn't only to drum up hype, lots of people in AI sincerely believe this)!

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