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FLWAB's avatar

I appreciate that famine and starvation anywhere is a problem worth talking about. What I find sad is that so many people are coming out to talk about potential starvation in Gaza, who have ignored ongoing starvation situations that are much larger in scale and which they can directly provide aid towards.

In particular, Sudan has been going through another civil war over the past two years. Currently about 12.5 million people have been displaced due to the war. According to the World Food Programme there has been an ongoing famine since August of 2024, with over 600,000 facing direct starvation and 5 million people who are food insecure. Sudan's medical agency has reported that over 500,000 infants have already starved to death. According to the UN, 3.6 milion children are currently "acutely malnourished."

Note that there are only 1 million people in Gaza, in comparison, and they are not all currently starving.

I don't have a problem with caring about Gazan people starving, but there are many times over as many people who have been starving in Sudan for over a year now, and they're not getting the help they need either. Gaza on the other hand is getting a huge amount of attention,, and there are still hundreds of millions of dollars of food aid going into Gaza. Right now a big part of the problem is that there are thousands of tons of food that the UN has at the Gaza border but refuses to send in despite approval from the Israeli military. Israel took over food distribution because most of the food aid previously was stolen by Hamas and sold at high prices to Gazans in order to fund Hamas's war effort. Now Israel is preventing most of that theft, but the UN is refusing to send the trucks full of food in to help the starving people. They say it was safer when Hamas was distributing it, and it is unsafe now. That may or may not be the case, but it was certainly the case that when the Hamas backed police force were distributing it they were making sure most of it went straight to Hamas. It doesn't seem unreasonable for Israel to not want that to happen, and it doesn't seem like it is 100% their fault that aid isn't coming in when the UN refuses to send the aid in because Hamas isn't the one distributing it.

The quote you ended with says that Gaza is fading from the headlines, but I don't see it. I see a lot of headlines about starvation in Gaza! More every day. What I don't see are any headlines about the millions who are still starving in Sudan.

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While I sympathise with Gazans, I'm deeply opposed to setting the precedent that a hostile force can hold its own civilian population hostage as human shields, double down and count on the naive empathy of the global citizenry to save it from consequences.

Especially now with France recognising Palestine, October 7th has probably been the most successful military operation Palestine has ever pulled off. It's a massive incentive to any potential terrorist or otherwise hostile forces, you can break every convention on warfare, commit every atrocity, practically do anything you want, as long as you can make the resulting conflict long and bloody enough and your opponent is susceptible to moral grandstanding by the global community, you'll win and probably get a bunch of bonus propaganda victories in the process.

I see no reason Israel should care more about the lives of Gazans than Hamas does. If they don't think the situation is severe enough to surrender, then that's not Israel's problem. Otherwise we'll end up in this exact same situation 5 or 10 years down the line when Hamas has replenished it's ranks and is ready for another go at it, after all, they'll know that it'll work just like last time.

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